So what keeps the bad together and inspires you to still keep going strong
20 years on?
All bands would give you a different answer. Probably
for us, the fact the band is still run the way we want it to be rather than
the way others say it should be and that’s been right since we started. I
remember the first Suicidal Tendencies interview way back with a fanzine
called ‘Flipside’ saying we were doing it cos it was the right thing and
not because it is a job. It is still like that, I remember saying at the
time in the interview that we would not probably be going in 5 years time.
I had a great time growing up. A lot of things that seem negative at the time
later turn out to be positive – and that is the way I was taught to think about
life. My dad told me that ‘music is a way to escape from life, but you cannot
use music to escape from life as it is life that is real, music is just minuet
in comparison’. Music is a sacrifice, I have always loved music and at the
same time I have always hated music.
We have recorded a lot of tracks that have never been released and we never
intended to be released. We have done it for ourselves. Business is not fun,
but at the same time I have never been the sort of person to want go to a sweet
shop and just live on a diet of chocolate. We manage ourselves, because we
are the best people to do it. We could tour all the time. We have lots of offers
what people would tell us are good business opportunities, but that is not
what matters, what matters is what is right for the band. The irony is that
back in 94 we did a tour with Metallica. At the time people were coming up
to us saying how well we were going down, how everyone was loving us but the
truth is many of the crowd were the sort of people we tried to stay away from
when we were at school. It was time to stop. Record labels were saying it does
not matter who you are playing to as long as people are paying / coming along – but
it does to us.
Have you done anything special to celebrate the 20 year ST
birthday?
Well it is pretty funny as the current bassist is 18 and
the drummer has just turned 21.Suisidal Tendencies have had different people
on each release, even before we recorded anything. When we did the Warp tour
in Australia the main audience were 12 to 14 years old. They had come to
see other bands and did not know who we were, but they were going home and
telling their older brother about this band that blew them away and the brothers
were going ‘hey they are a really old band, I remember them’. They would
end up coming to several shows. And the brothers would come along and say
they cannot be old enough to be around for so long.
How have the band be preparing for the forth coming Resistance
Tour?
We don’t really have to do anything to prepare – we are
always ready. On Monday w go into the studio to recorded the latest tracks
for Infectious Groves. We have just played a local show and come back from
headlining a show in the Czech Republic. The Resistance tour is 18 shows
in 18 days, which is not how Suicidal usually operate. The promoters said
we could miss a couple of dates here and there, but the crowd coming to those
shows would not see it like that. In the old days we once did 34 shows in
32 days. One day was a matinee gig in New York and an evening show in New
Jersey. We always thing that the current show is the only show that that
person is going to see and you have to play it like that. Yesterday and tomorrow
do not matter. So you always have to give your best possible. Thus tour is
not set up how we usually work. We are used to doing a show based on us,
and how we like.
We know the others on this tour. We have done shows before with Madball and
have played with Ignite in Germany.
Do your audiences vary much from country to country and where
is your favourite place to pay?
In the States the audience varies more. It tends to go
on how long since you last been to the place. But the States seems to be
different. You get different sort of crowds wherever you go. One city it
will be full of skaters, the next city will be all punks and the next one
may be full of gangsters, real crazy.
A UK journalist came and spent some time with us 10 years ago. After the show
he stood there looking shocked. He was amazed at all the different people that
had come up to us after the show and said how we were their favourite band
and how much we meant to them. In 10 minutes maybe 20 people had come up to
us all quite different and the journalist could not get over how we meant so
many different things to such a device set of people. They had all taken what
they had seen, and found a way for it to suit them. We are not trying to appeal
to any one set of people, we are just doing what is true. Just getting on with
the music.
There have been so many great experiences, all quite different – all for very
different reasons. On this forth coming tour we have some great fans in Italy
who will be travelling to many of the tours – it will be great to play Milano.
We are going back to the Czech Republic, to Prague soon. We have always found
that when we do one show and then go back again soon after it goes totally
crazy.
We have never had much control on where we are on the line-up or taken too
much notice who else is playing, that is not important to us. Or where we stand
on the bill. Sometimes we have turned up and seen friends, and asked them what
they are doing there – it turns out they are on the line-up to.
We have never been to Russia or Greece, but we are going to try and make it
there when the next record is released. We have never played anywhere just
because we have been advised that it would be good for us. A few years ago
we did 20+ shows in France. The booker told us we did not want to do this as
only Paris mattered and that was only because it was on the way to London.
But we did it and had a great time. We would get to places early and get to
meet people’s family, and really be accepted. Over the years we have seen stuff
that many other bands would not have seen. For a lot of bands all they see
between shows is the highway. For us we get to see stuff like the promoters
Dad’s business. You get an insight into other peoples lives and end up realising
that really they are just like me. They have very different languages and cultures,
but if they had grown up where I had they would be the same.
How have you seen the music scene change over the years?
It has changed so much. Music is interpreted so different
these days. They used to say that a new music generation would come along
every three years; I think it now more like every nine months. Instead of ‘ What
will the next big thing be?’ being asked, it is now ‘Is there anything else?’ which
is the question. When we started out it was Cyndy Lauper and Boy George that
were around, and now?
Out of all your albums which is your favourite and why?
I kinda think of releases like kids. One may be the brightest,
another the funniest another prettiest but they are all special and you love
them all equally in their own way. Some bands when recording albums will
go back and assess what bits of their last album made it not sell – this
is for their record label. We do what feels right at the time. My Dad says
when recording new stuff that you must remember that ‘it has to be good for
a reason, not just today, but for tomorrow as well’. If things turn out better
than we thought they would, then that equals success. We have a strong idea
of what we do and do not want to do.
You obviously like working with others (with side projects like Infectious
Groves) and I read Ice T has joined you on stage in the past – if you could
work with anyone, alive or dead who would it be?
When all possibilities are opened up to you like this,
you tend to get even greedier and want even more. I would rather say there
are different things I would like to experience. I am into learning how people
do things, and to drop in to see how the cope with different situations.
A few years ago I got loads of proposals for collaborations – there were
with the big ‘alternative’, hip-hop/rock type bands. But it did not appeal
to us. People said it draw attention to our music, but we do not feel we
need that type of attention. We would rather do tours like the Resistance
one and win people because they have seen us at the show. Maybe they did
not know who we were before the show, but they go away liking the band.
Tell the readers 5 facts about the band?
1) The drummer and bassist are brothers and their dad
used to be in the Temptations. They have also played with Snoop Doggy Dog.
2) The bassist has just gotten back from playing with Jessica Simpson.
3) The guitarist Dean has played on loads of records that have gone. He has
worked with the 3T’s and the Jacksons.
4) Not many people like me – but everyone knows that. But I am not bothered
like maybe they think I should be.
5) I don’t drink pepsi
Plans, gigs and releases planned for 2003 and 2004?
There should be a new Suicidal Tendencies album out next
year. Also a new release by the Infectious Groves. We are in negotiations
with Sony to put out a DVD – they own rights to most of our stuff. Things
like ‘Lights - Camera - Revolution’ and stuff that came out afterwards. There
are around 18-20 videos we have to choose from. We will do a tour when this
comes out. We plan to head first to South America and then to places like
Indonesia.
Any final comments?
Come down and catch us at the Forum in London.
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