Please give a brief history of the band, including current line up.
We formed together with Morgan, Steve, Charlie and myself
at The Hope and Anchor in 1976, just after we saw people like the Pistols
doing the various things they were doing at the time on TV. We thought it
look like great fun, so we got together and here we are still. Having split
up in the meantime for a good 20 years, but I will come onto that later.
Discography.
Screwed Up - Illegal Records (with Kim Turner and Miles
Copeland)
I Need Nothing - Illegal Records/Step Forward (actually reordered at the same
time as Screwed Up, but put out much later - produced by John Cale)
GLC/I'm Civilised - Small Wonder
The Young Ones - Final Vinyl (a fun record meant as a tribute to the fans,
released as the band was splitting up) -
New Stuff
Society's Still Insane EP- Vinyl Japan (record label wanted them to do 4 of
the old songs, but band wanted to include new stuff - ep actually features
re-recordings of the old tracks, plus new track)
C&A/*Punk Rocker/It's Not Unusual/Last Years Youth - Knock Out Records (3 new
tracks, one old - Due out NOW!!!)
Live album - Vinyl Japan (Due out Feb 2000)
Studio album planned for middle/end 2000
* Punk Rocker was actually one of the old original Menace Songs, but never
recorded.
What are the main differences from doing gigs when you first
started, to doing them now? And is it the same audience, but now middle age
or a new audience?
In the old days it was really manic, we were all young
whippersnappers diving about the place, being sick and drinking and the rest
of it - a fabulous time. Nowadays, we are a bit heavier and a bit older,
but we still enjoy gigs the same as we did. We have a really great time at
gigs and we just love to up there playing. The audience is an odd mix, there
are a lot of young kids coming to the gigs, some that would not have been
born '77. Some who got into punk with Special Duties and people like that
later on in the 80's. And there are some of the original old punks that say
we saw you here, we saw you there and we think fucking hell, people are still
out there, around watching gigs. We really lost ourselves after we split
up, we didn't know that it all still existed, so it was a real surprise to
see all these people coming to see us again - fantastic really.
What is the funniest thing that has happened to you whilst
touring?
All the funniest tour related things happen to be drink
related. We lost Morgan one night after we had played, couldn't find him
of ages, we hunted high and low, upstairs, downstairs, behind the bar - every
place. We thought 'where has this guy gone?'. Then half-way through the evening,
suddenly Morgan rises like a dead man from behind one of the speaker cabinets
on stage, from where he had collapsed at the end of the gig, and hadn't known
he was still there. Another time we were coming back from a gig (probably
JB's in Dudley) and we had a van full of people, as you did in those days
sitting on the speaker cabinet's etc. Everyone in the back had been drinking
snakebites for the best part of the evening, and it was half way down the
motorway and one of them said 'I feel a bit sick, you'll have to stop the
van'. The van didn't stop so he was sick in the van, and with him wretching
and being sick it meant that everyone else in the van was just sick as well.
The whole van was covered in chunder, we had to stop for about an hour to
just clean this thing out. It stunk like a shit factory - it was really,
really, really bad.
If Menace could play live with any band, either of the past
or present who would it be?
This would probably be The Clash in the early days, before
they released their album. Their gigs just seemed to be full of energy and
life, no real controversy like the Sex Pistols (I can't imagine trying to
play with them as the whole night would just be fucked up with ego's and
everything else). It seems to me that The Clash went along and played a gig
pretty much like we do, and the audience came to see a band that played music
and not necessary being controversial. I also quite like The Jam, but I'm
not sure if they could have suited us with the music they played. With the
bands we play with now, smaller and bigger bands, we just enjoy meeting the
people and seeing what they are up to.
Do you think street music will rise again?
I can't see that it will ever become really popular again,
like it was with everyone into it. I think you might have some peaks, there
may be a band some place that release a single that gets fairly well played.
I think Madness coming back together now, although they are fairly poppy,
they are still quite interesting to listen to and their songs are all pretty
chanting and oi!'sh in a way and I think there is a lot of people who will
go and see them. I don't know if it will fit under the banner of 'street
music'. Anyway, I think it is pretty healthy as it is, if it gets too big
then the problems reoccur that we had the first time round, with the mixing
of the different cultures and everything. It is pretty good the way it is.
There quite a few thousand into it, and there is a fairly good, healthy amount
of people that come to the gigs. Anything to 100, to 350 come to see to gigs,
maybe a few more. That's good as you get to know the people fairly well that
come, although it is different people at every show - it is fairly healthy,
and if it got bigger, we could loose sight of it again. The fact that it
is this size it becomes 'ours', where as if it becomes bigger, it moves away
from being 'ours' - something can get lost in it being too popular. I vote
that we should keep it at the size it is, or maybe a bit bigger without it
getting ridiculously big again. That way it will go on for a lot longer,
because as you know anything that comes up as a trend, dissapears again fairly
quickly.
What is the Punk/Oi scene like in your area?
In my area local to me Muswell Hill/Crouch End places
like that, the oi scene is a bit like watching a tumble weed through the
desert - it really isn't happening. I know Charlie Harper comes from Finsbury
Park/Crouch End way, but there aren't really any gigs to speak of. The nearest
being Camden and Islington which seem to be fairly healthy because if the
Garage and Hope and Anchor and loads of other places in Camden. But around
here, there's very little, you are starting to get into the outskirts of
Barnnet and there are no gigs, never mind Oi gigs. You can't get to see any
gigs up in this area except maybe if you went to Alexandra Palace to see
some really big band. You see the odd punk in the street, which is strangely
enough unusual as you did not see them a few years back and now you see the
odd coloured hair, odd mohichian - but whether they are surf punks, or what,
I don't really know. I haven't gone up to them and said 'oi mate, what bands
do you like?', but they seem to be fairly punky looking. So I think it is
around some place, but I haven't found it in my street.
What is the favourite song (and what band is it by) of each
member of the band?
Noel:
London's Calling - The Clash
Bodies - Sex Pistols
Babylon's Burning - The Ruts (now there is a band I would like to play with
again, if they were around)
John:
How Much Longer? - ATV
Charlie:
Jam/Clash/maybe The Who
Andrew:
Everything
Plans, gigs and releases planned for 99.
We hope to stay together for as long people allow us to.
Charlie is moving down to Plymouth because of his circumstances, but we will
still be doing gigs as we do most gigs at the weekend anyway as we work.
We rarely do Monday/Tuesday night gigs, but we could it's not impossible,
but generally speaking it easier for the people who want to see us to get
to gigs at the weekend. We have the FREE gig on the 4th December, dedicated
to Rebecca and her 'Punk & Oi in the UK website' down at the Goldsmiths Tavern,
which will be our end of year gig. Next year we will look at the States,
a slightly longer tour of Germany and the Czech Republic. We have just come
back from a successful German tour and may make the Czech Republic at the
end of December. So more gigs, and probably a single and then an album, which
I have already mentioned that includes songs off some of the singles & new
songs, maybe a couple of covers, might do a ska track. The ska track would
obviously be quite hard to do live as a three musician outfit (John only
sings, does not play an instrument), but I would not mind doing it on an
album. We have the live album in February. We will look at recording a new
album August/September which may not be out on vinyl until 2001 - same formula,
we want loads and loads of people to come down to the studio, live or not
we like load of people to come in and join in on the album. We don't want
to over produce things, we think that sounds really naff. So really in a
nutshell, what we intend to do next year and in years to come is to keep
the band going, keep gigging, we are not going to do huge tours or hundreds
of gigs. Two, maybe three gigs a month, a couple of tours abroad - maybe
Japan, maybe the States, defiantly Germany. And I think we will continue
to have a good time, because for us it is a real buzz to come back after
20 years and almost, but not quite pick up where we left off. I think the
bands sounds as good as it ever did, if not better. There is plenty of energy
there, even more energy than before, because the energy used to be misdirected
now it is focused. The sound of the band is good, the live recording is as
it was, there are no overdubs, we got around 40-50 people into a small studio,
we set the studio up like a gig and we played. We did the set two times,
the first time was more or less a warm-up, we got loads of beer in, so the
time we did the second set people treated it like they forgot it was a recording
and they were jumping up onto our side of the tape as it were and jumping
on Andrew's guitar, pedal booster and bumping into the cymbals, getting on
the microphone - so it was just like a gig. We will continue to do stuff
like that, and as long as people still like Mencae we will play.
Any final comments?
These days with the Internet etc, we have never had as
much coverage. In the old days Menace, people who ran fanzines/news papers
really didn't take much notice of Menace. Not sure why, perhaps there were
too many bands to take in, or maybe it was 'cos we weren't fashionable. Nowadays,
we are getting a lot of good reviews in magazines, apart from one guy who
didn't bother to come to see us, but wrote 'that we were boring old gits,
who were only in it for the money', which I still kind of resent a little
bit, although he since sys that he made a mistake, but I have not seen anything
to counteract that particular statement. I think now with things like 'Punk & Oi
in the UK' and people like Stuart from Kontrol, means there is a wealth of
things for people to get involved in and to really get the message out there
to other people all over the world. I'll always write to people, or at least
drop them a few lines if they say for example 'hi, I'm from ----- there are
no punks down my manner' and I will drop them a note and say I'm in the same
boat, but we're on the net so we are just down the road from each other.
I think you are doing a great service to the world, by keeping the music
alive on the internet - and that's brilliant, you can pack yourself on the
back, and when I see you, I will buy you a pint. One day you will come down
to London, or we will get up to Leeds and we would be quite interested if
you could come up with a gig at the weekend, we'll come up, have a laugh
and come home again.
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